Betamaxman 14 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Fair play, that was definitely worth watching. Yeah, decent that. Reminded me of watching Boro! Link to post Share on other sites
HoyteForLeftBack 194 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 What did the policeman say to the goal thief? NACHO GOAL!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 That Ronaldo isn’t having a bad World Cup is he? Link to post Share on other sites
Snowblind 1,734 Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 What a way for the tournament to kick into action! De Gea had a 'mare though... Link to post Share on other sites
Downsouth 6,327 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Mistakes apart what a wonderful game! Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,283 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm all for the application of technology to support the referees. They're there to apply the rules and they need more support to do that with greater accuracy. However... that VAR review showed the referee two angles of the challenge. Neither of which angle showed the touch from the defender. Almost like it was intentionally avoiding the front on angle. The referee awards the penalty correctly from the views he has been shown. But they didn't show him the right ones clearly. And in the time I've written this, VAR confirms a penalty at the other end. Justice done? Maybe but you could argue Australia should be 1 up now. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm all for the application of technology to support the referees. They're there to apply the rules and they need more support to do that with greater accuracy. However... that VAR review showed the referee two angles of the challenge. Neither of which angle showed the touch from the defender. Almost like it was intentionally avoiding the front on angle. The referee awards the penalty correctly from the views he has been shown. But they didn't show him the right ones clearly. And in the time I've written this, VAR confirms a penalty at the other end. Justice done? Maybe but you could argue Australia should be 1 up now. Even if there was a touch the ball was still under Griezmann’s control, therefore still a foul, no? Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm all for the application of technology to support the referees. They're there to apply the rules and they need more support to do that with greater accuracy. However... that VAR review showed the referee two angles of the challenge. Neither of which angle showed the touch from the defender. Almost like it was intentionally avoiding the front on angle. The referee awards the penalty correctly from the views he has been shown. But they didn't show him the right ones clearly. And in the time I've written this, VAR confirms a penalty at the other end. Justice done? Maybe but you could argue Australia should be 1 up now. Even if there was a touch the ball was still under Griezmann’s control, therefore still a foul, no? No, he went down far too easily, VAR really doesn’t help at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm all for the application of technology to support the referees. They're there to apply the rules and they need more support to do that with greater accuracy. However... that VAR review showed the referee two angles of the challenge. Neither of which angle showed the touch from the defender. Almost like it was intentionally avoiding the front on angle. The referee awards the penalty correctly from the views he has been shown. But they didn't show him the right ones clearly. And in the time I've written this, VAR confirms a penalty at the other end. Justice done? Maybe but you could argue Australia should be 1 up now. Even if there was a touch the ball was still under Griezmann’s control, therefore still a foul, no? No, he went down far too easily, VAR really doesn’t help at all. Griezmann? I’d love to see anyone carry on running after they’re ankle has been clipped like that. Link to post Share on other sites
BearSmog 1,382 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Clear penalty in my opinion, yeah the defender gets a touch but Griezmann retains control then the foul occurs. Well done VAR Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I honestly didn’t see any meaningful contact from the two camera angles that I saw, it was also wired that Umtitipunched the ball clear and didn’t even get booked. The trouble with VAR is that it’s open to interpretation, it’s a very fine line between going down easily, diving or having the right to go down, both Griezmann today and Ronaldo yesterday bought those penalties. I think both could have carried on and would have, if they had been anywhere else on the pitch. Still it’s a game of opinions. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,283 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm all for the application of technology to support the referees. They're there to apply the rules and they need more support to do that with greater accuracy. However... that VAR review showed the referee two angles of the challenge. Neither of which angle showed the touch from the defender. Almost like it was intentionally avoiding the front on angle. The referee awards the penalty correctly from the views he has been shown. But they didn't show him the right ones clearly. And in the time I've written this, VAR confirms a penalty at the other end. Justice done? Maybe but you could argue Australia should be 1 up now. Even if there was a touch the ball was still under Griezmann’s control, therefore still a foul, no? No, he went down far too easily, VAR really doesn’t help at all. That's a blanket statement and frankly untrue. It provides an opportunity for the referee to re-watch and judge properly the incidents that were difficult to call in real-time. As I said, my issue is with the angles he was shown. But perhaps Will can expand on what he said, maybe I'm wrong as I thought he was reviewing the contact or lack thereof which the two angles he was shown did not show to him. My view of it is the ball is kicked against Griezmann, the ball is away from him and the follow through is where the contact is made. If we awarded a penalty for every follow-through challenge after winning the ball, defenders might as well stop tackling in the box. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I’m even more confused now, do you think it should have been a penalty Mr Wilson? Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Sometimes certain decisions will be subjective even with VAR, two of us might watch a penalty call a thousand times and still not agree. As Wilson says VAR has been brought in to allow the referee more time to make his decision. Sometimes we've just got to accept the refs decision whether we like it or not. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Sometimes certain decisions will be subjective even with VAR, two of us might watch a penalty call a thousand times and still not agree. As Wilson says VAR has been brought in to allow the referee more time to make his decision. Sometimes we've just got to accept the refs decision whether we like it or not. Well I refuse to accept it and I’m putting the result down as a one all draw on my wallchart. ;) Link to post Share on other sites
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