estonpidge 1,442 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) Woodgate's time on the sidelines would have given him more opportunities to learn from the coaches, analyse games tactics etc. than if he'd been playing. That's why imo so many good young coaches have had shortened playing careers 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SmogInSheff 66 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, estonpidge said: Woodgate's time on the sidelines would have given him more opportunities to learn from the coaches, analyse games tactics etc. than if he'd been playing. That's why imo so many good young coaches have had shortened playing careers Good point and Sir Bobby Robson, El Tel and Harry Redknapp werent bad to learn from. Not particularly defensive ones either. Link to post Share on other sites
Boro 86 511 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I am actually quite excited at the prospect of Woodgate. Had he stayed fit John Terry wouldn’t have got an England cap IMO so has pedigree on that front. He will have learned good and bad during his time on the sidelines and has had an apprenticeship of sorts under one of the worst. Of all the other candidates I would have taken jokanovic as first choice but Woody is for me the next best option of those who are realistically in for the job. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
northern boro 446 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Alan Nixon saying Boro are expected to give the job to Woodgate then pick a new backroom team to help him Link to post Share on other sites
mj south 610 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Phil Neville rumours are really starting to intensify, who reckons we could see Neville manager and Woodgate assistant? Link to post Share on other sites
Motor Mouth 255 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Randy Sandwich said: I said when Pulis was here I'd take playing the kids under a home grown manager all day long and I'm sticking by it. If it's Woodgate then so be it, it can't be as bad as what we've endured. UTB I am all for it but will Gibson stay true or will he chop n change his mind after a month or two of possibly not so good results, and will the fans stay off the managers back whilst he rebuild's. Like you say after what we watched last season under TP then surely its worth a season of trying out youngsters from our own camp. Link to post Share on other sites
"KM" 1,653 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, northern boro said: Alan Nixon saying Boro are expected to give the job to Woodgate then pick a new backroom team to help him Not like we couldn’t have already guessed that. Link to post Share on other sites
thatoldchestnut 583 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, northern boro said: Alan Nixon saying Boro are expected to give the job to Woodgate then pick a new backroom team to help him So he has no more idea than the rest of us Link to post Share on other sites
"KM" 1,653 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Jorge Simao gets the job for a club in Saudi Arabia. Was he ever in the running? I don’t think so. Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, Boro 86 said: I am actually quite excited at the prospect of Woodgate. Had he stayed fit John Terry wouldn’t have got an England cap IMO so has pedigree on that front. He will have learned good and bad during his time on the sidelines and has had an apprenticeship of sorts under one of the worst. Of all the other candidates I would have taken jokanovic as first choice but Woody is for me the next best option of those who are realistically in for the job. Whilst i am a big fan of Woodgate the defender i think to say JT would not have got a cap had Woodgate remained fit is a huge stretch. You are seriously downplaying the credentials of possibly the best (definitley one of the best) defender the Premier Leagure era ever seen imo. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, J.T. said: There’s a massive difference between someone like Lampard who has won Champions League and Premier League titles and renowned as one of the best England players of his generation, and Jonathan Woodgate. And that’s without taking personalities into account. Just adding my opinion on the matter. You mention Lampard, who when Derby signed I don't remember the rest of the Championship teams jumping over one another to sign him. Comparing their respective playing careers, Lampard is by far the better player, in terms of what he has achieved and won. In terms of coaching/management careers, when Lampard was appointed he had zero coaching experience. He hasn't been gaining experience of coaching at Chelsea or any anywhere for that matter. Woodgate on the other hand, has experience at a big club (Liverpool) in their scouting department, and he has been involved day-to-day at a Championship (few months in the Premiership too) club since 2017. Arguably in May 2018 when Lampard was given the Derby job, he was less experienced than Woodgate was at the same time. You then mention personalities, wasn't Lampard one of the Chelsea players that abused American tourists the day after 9/11? Yes he was, along with JT who most of us on here didn't want as a manager due to that (amongst other things) incident. Link to post Share on other sites
northern boro 446 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Current Sky Bet odds Jonathan Woodgate 2/5 Nigel Adkins 8/1 Phil Neville 8/1 Slavisa Jokanovic 8/1 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 minute ago, northern boro said: Current Sky Bet odds Jonathan Woodgate 2/5 Nigel Adkins 8/1 Phil Neville 8/1 Slavisa Jokanovic 8/1 I cant help but think Adkins would be a very shrewd appointment. Not the sexy name like Jok or top ex player who has potential to become a top manager (JW and Nev) but just a clever appointment that suits us at this moment in time given what we got to play with and what we trying to do. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, "KM" said: Jorge Simao gets the job for a club in Saudi Arabia. Was he ever in the running? I don’t think so. Nah I don’t think so either. Was probably just his agent putting it out there. Link to post Share on other sites
mj south 610 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, TLF10 said: I cant help but think Adkins would be a very shrewd appointment. Not the sexy name like Jok or top ex player who has potential to become a top manager (JW and Nev) but just a clever appointment that suits us at this moment in time given what we got to play with and what we trying to do. Ye, I'd be happy with Adkins, was he the manager of Southampton when they got promoted to the premier league? Link to post Share on other sites
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