CWC 383 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I’ve got to say, I really couldn’t care less if Saville went. Have yet to see any signs of what he brings. A very poor piece of business. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, CWC said: I’ve got to say, I really couldn’t care less if Saville went. Have yet to see any signs of what he brings. A very poor piece of business. it's not the loss of any of the new buys it's the blatant waste of money that really grips my SHSHSHSHSHSt Link to post Share on other sites
ABH 470 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, SmogInSheff said: I get the feeling that all of our managers in recent times bar maybe mogga have ignored the scouting team, strachan, karanka, dodgy monk, pulis all brought their own players in and the ones brought in by the club/chairman just didn't get played. I think Woody will be completely different and we may change our opinions on the scouting recruitment team. Here's hoping anyway. It was lucky (unlucky) that pulis 3 permanent signings where all players the club had been scouting for year and tried to sign before pulis came to the club.? Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,118 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 McNair wasn’t Pulis’ signing. Other 2 were. Mat least we now have clarity with who’s signing players. A committee of 5 people! Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Lurker said: McNair wasn’t Pulis’ signing. Other 2 were. Mat least we now have clarity with who’s signing players. A committee of 5 people! Well yeah McNair can't have been as Pulis hardly played him. I thought someone on here had suggested Flint wasn't one of his either, which surprised me a bit. Might have SDS who said that actually? Link to post Share on other sites
LinoJo3 3,191 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 The amount of money we have wasted as in totally utterly wasted is staggering. Gestede £6m plus 2.5 years wages - £8m Fletcher £7m plus 2 years wages -£10m? Downing £7m plus 4 years wages £15m? Hugill £2m plus a season wage £3m? Saville £7m plus a seasons wage £8m? McNair £5m plus a seasons wage £6.5m? Guedioura £3-4m? Braithwaite £9m not sure how his wage worked when on loan, say £12m Marvin Johnson £2.5m plus a seasons wage £3m Thats £70m worth of players since January 2017 who have either barely played or made a negligible difference when they have. I’ve probably even missed some out aswell. Didnt include the likes of flint as even if we have over paid he still did almost a full season for us in a strong defence. I included downing and fletcher because although they played plenty, their return hasn’t came close to justifying the outlay. Link to post Share on other sites
Essuuaitch 330 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Duvel said: Mine changed a long time ago, I think he genuinely cares and he's doing his best but I think he's out of his depth in modern day football. And yeah I agree with you that we don't always get the full truth out of the club. re Gibson, im now finding myself leaning to a mix of your opinion and CT,s. possibly looking back im now pretty sure him and AK maybe started crossing swords through the jordan rhodes on/off transfer saga where one of them wanted him and the other didnt then Downings return a year later confirmed to me that Gibson was meddling in the wrong end of transfers ..ie ..initiating them rather than having the say in the contract side of things, add to that the gazettegate its hard to not begin looking behind his hero image from the good times of his tenure. but deep down im certain he does have an undying affection for the club ,thats not in doubt. Link to post Share on other sites
RichAcklam2404 929 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I just can't believe that Gary Gill went from 'expert summariser' at BBC Tees (co-commentator really) to our Head European Scout. Laughable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 They have identified some top talent then failed to buy them for whatever reason then paid over the odds for a lesser player Link to post Share on other sites
LinoJo3 3,191 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Essuuaitch said: re Gibson, im now finding myself leaning to a mix of your opinion and CT,s. possibly looking back im now pretty sure him and AK maybe started crossing swords through the jordan rhodes on/off transfer saga where one of them wanted him and the other didnt then Downings return a year later confirmed to me that Gibson was meddling in the wrong end of transfers ..ie ..initiating them rather than having the say in the contract side of things, add to that the gazettegate its hard to not begin looking behind his hero image from the good times of his tenure. but deep down im certain he does have an undying affection for the club ,thats not in doubt. This is exactly what I think aswell. I think his heart is in the right place but he is sticking his oar in, Ive said before that the Assombalonga signing stinks of being a ‘Gibson special’. I also agree that the downing and Rhodes situations started karankas decline, the promotion season never felt the same as the play off season did. I also got the impression there were 2 factions behind the scenes fighting over transfers (even before Orta joined). The targets and signings just seemed a mish mash and never seemed to fit into any ‘plan’. My theory is Karanka was angry that we missed out on targets in the summer but was told to hold out till January. This I believe is the explanation for his overly cautious approach, either way he had us out of the bottom 3. The promised January targets never materialised and instead he got 2 joke signings and bamford, causing the sarcastic comments in a post match interview about ‘championship standard players’. It was then he knew we were F’d and the melt down began. That’s my theory of how our crap recruitment team ruined the best chance we had of establishing our selves back in the premiership. Funny how Leeds seem happy enough with Orta, he’s even kept Bielsa happy by the looks of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Essuuaitch 330 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, RichAcklam2404 said: I just can't believe that Gary Gill went from 'expert summariser' at BBC Tees (co-commentator really) to our Head European Scout. Laughable. true, hes benefitted from overratedness in all his levels starting as a player . 1 Link to post Share on other sites
"KM" 1,656 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, RichAcklam2404 said: I just can't believe that Gary Gill went from 'expert summariser' at BBC Tees (co-commentator really) to our Head European Scout. Laughable. Jobs for the boys. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ABH 470 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 At least we can all look forward now in the knowledge that only 80% of our new recruitment committee where involved in last seasons transfers ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Essuuaitch 330 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 dont want all my posts to be grumpy so to maybe give an optomistic view on the coming season theres no reason even without any actual signings that we cant have a competetive team just with 2 0r 3 loans. Derby did ok last season with in the main relying on thier loanees for impetus or being thier stand out performers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Smoggydownsouth 1,621 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Well yeah McNair can't have been as Pulis hardly played him. I thought someone on here had suggested Flint wasn't one of his either, which surprised me a bit. Might have SDS who said that actually? Flint was due to sign season before under Monk but Monk changed his mind and that was that. Link to post Share on other sites
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