Lurker 2,118 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 The biggest issue we have is the date of our window closing. He knows we can't afford him, we know he wants to go. He knows that we'll have to let him go once our window is closed and we can't get replacements in. Just bite the bullet and move on. The longer it drags on the worse it is for us. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,297 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 This separate closing of windows is a farce and a huge detriment to English clubs. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: We really cant, they're not idiots. Players are well aware of what a transfer request means for them IF we'd told him he was staying unless he made it official that he wanted to leave, he would've made it official. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) Borodane The rest of Europe was supposed to get on board with the idea, but only the English did, though some other counties have made small adjustments. Edited July 23, 2019 by estonpidge Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Will said: IF we'd told him he was staying unless he made it official that he wanted to leave, he would've made it official. Hmmm I am not certain but from my experience of employee disputes, a club could get in hot water by making that kind of statement. Whether its implied or not Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,297 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: Hmmm I am not certain but from my experience of employee disputes, a club could get in hot water by making that kind of statement. Whether its implied or not Nah that isn’t the issue. Club could just say “MB hasn’t filed a transfer request so we interpret that as he wants to stay”. Could just say the same to the player and agent. The issue is we don’t want to risk being stuck with him hence trying to reach a compromise. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 The player is holding all the cards at this point, had TP/the club said you're playing and staying as per your contract unless you wish to be put on the transfer list in which case submit an official request. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,937 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, estonpidge said: Borodane he rest of Europe was supposed to get on board with the idea, but only the English did, though some other counties have made small adjustments. Welll why would they? European leagues often start later (Italy for example is over 2 weeks later than the premiership) so what benefit would it be to them to close the window 2 weeks before the season starts? Bit arrogant to blame the rest of Europe for englands decision (where have I heard that before..) 2 Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, Neverbefore said: Welll why would they? European leagues often start later (Italy for example is over 2 weeks later than the premiership) so what benefit would it be to them to close the window 2 weeks before the season starts? Bit arrogant to blame the rest of Europe for englands decision. That wasn't what I was doing, merely stating the facts, UEFA & the leagues thought closing the window before the season started across the board was a good idea, the English leagues implemented it and others didn't. No conspiracy or suggestion of wrong doing Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,297 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, estonpidge said: That wasn't what I was doing, merely stating the facts, UEFA & the leagues thought closing the window before the season started across the board was a good idea, the English leagues implemented it and others didn't. No conspiracy or suggestion of wrong doing I think Italy has done it but as their league starts later their window closes later too. English have imposed a stupid deadline and that’s the end of it. Might help the huge clubs that can actually afford to hold on to players but the lesser clubs can be bent over a barrel so easy now. Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 He's got us over a barrel, he knows it and so do the club. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,937 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, estonpidge said: That wasn't what I was doing, merely stating the facts, UEFA & the leagues thought closing the window before the season started across the board was a good idea, the English leagues implemented it and others didn't. No conspiracy or suggestion of wrong doing Apologies, picked up on the tone wrong. Just cant see how it was ever a viable suggestion while league start dates vary so widely. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: Hmmm I am not certain but from my experience of employee disputes, a club could get in hot water by making that kind of statement. Whether its implied or not For what exactly? Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,035 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Could be Boro’s own Jack Rodwell in our Netflix documentary ? Link to post Share on other sites
Hobo 58 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, Will said: IF we'd told him he was staying unless he made it official that he wanted to leave, he would've made it official. But he knows we want rid, that we can't afford his wages, that we need the money in. So he can just sit and wait and get the payment we offered to him in his contract. The worst that happens for him is we don't sell him, end up loaning him out again and he keeps raking in 50k a week plus whatever loyalty payments are owed. For us that means he costs us a fortune, knocks another year off his contract, drops his value some more, means we don't get funds in. I'd hold out in that situation. Link to post Share on other sites
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