DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, BearSmog said: Sorry I should have been more clear, it should have read "without judgement of my peers not including my evil overlord." There is only two types of people in a relationship; the one that is always right, the other is the Husband/Boyfriend. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Essuuaitch 330 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 as it stands given all the speculation surrounding our financial/spending restraints , its making for depressing reading . ideally we need rid of deadwood and players that dont look to have any signs of being fit for purpose so (imo) being clinical id say , Shotton, Friend, Flint, Johnson, Gestede and maybe to many a couple of unpopular ones in Braithwaite and McNair . Personally id love us to hold onto all the rest but it seems the players we have that are more likely to be snapped up are essential to us at present .......Randolph, Fry, Tavernier and Britt who for me along with Wing should be the spine of the side throwing in one or two youngsters along the way to hopefully make the grade. we are in need of rebuilding in a couple of areas like full backs and attacking supply be it AM,s or wingers before anyone leaves and should the worst happen and Randolph is allowed to leave we will need to add another keeper to that list , in fact due to past stupidity in the market even forgetting the fees ,the one area we are well covered is midfielders with low assist records and similar preferred workspace ,yet we still get linked with more of the same . maybe we will bring in one or two loans and one or two low cost signings which will be a help but only if they are for areas as stated above , they dont have to be big names or big fees just fit for purpose. and yes i would keep Clayton above Mc Nair .....just down to personal preference . Link to post Share on other sites
Boro 86 517 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, "KM" said: Yes let's not kid ourselves anymore. We are going to be in the Championship for quite a while now. Don't see us anywhere near the top 6 next season. Totally agree - If we end up around 60 points next season with something like W15 , D15 and L16 I think that will be a decent start. Anything better than that with the current squad (or worse if Britt / Braithwaite go) would be a very good season for Woody Link to post Share on other sites
Hobo 58 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, Boro 86 said: Totally agree - If we end up around 60 points next season with something like W15 , D15 and L16 I think that will be a decent start. Anything better than that with the current squad (or worse if Britt / Braithwaite go) would be a very good season for Woody So worse than Pulis managed playing dire football? And that would be very good? Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Dan1234 said: Did anyone notice how shocking Flint was with the ball vs Gateshead? To be honest he'd be the one I'd be trying to get rid of asap. Just don't see how he fits into a ball playing team without making 4 or 5 serious mistakes per game. Flint played his best football in an attacking bristol city side in 17/18, he is more than capable in this league 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Foogle 2,104 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, Hobo said: So worse than Pulis managed playing dire football? And that would be very good? Why do you think the football being better to watch would coincide with a better points total? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites
Boro 86 517 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Hobo said: So worse than Pulis managed playing dire football? And that would be very good? Absolutely. We have to accept that to move forward we will probably have to take a step back first. If the football is better I for one will accept a season or two in the Championship Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Sandwich 209 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Hobo said: So worse than Pulis managed playing dire football? And that would be very good? It depends who we end up with, I think a lot of fans are expecting Randolph, Britt and the likes to be gone, Randolph alone was worth ten places, Britt managed about 16 goals from the bench and the odd rare start, so their absence will make a big difference. Also we won"t be defending a 0-1 deficit to keep goal our difference down either and all the other crap he used to pull. I know I'd rather see progression, team spirit and a desire to attack and finish mid table with hope than another season of that dross, finishing 7th with no hope. Link to post Share on other sites
thatoldchestnut 583 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Was it Smoggydownsouth who said there was likely to be a signing this week. I wonder what happened and if there is any update! Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, thatoldchestnut said: Was it Smoggydownsouth who said there was likely to be a signing this week. I wonder what happened and if there is any update! He said it was meant to be AA Link to post Share on other sites
thatoldchestnut 583 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Brunners said: He said it was meant to be AA Thanks for that. It would be so nice to just see a signing that wasn't an ex player. I am becoming resigned though to not actually getting the positions filled that we need, but i still wouldn't be happy with just any player coming in. Link to post Share on other sites
Hobo 58 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Foogle said: Why do you think the football being better to watch would coincide with a better points total? Just curious. I don't. But suggesting we sacked a manager to hire a new one and yet expect him to do worse with the same resources is odd. Surely we hired a manager in the expectation that he would achieve the bare minimum the squad is capable of - which, given the dire football last season, would be 7th for me. Particularly as it was Pulis' negative tactics that cost us repeatedly (taking off strikers then losing/drawing games). Link to post Share on other sites
Hobo 58 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Randy Sandwich said: It depends who we end up with, I think a lot of fans are expecting Randolph, Britt and the likes to be gone, Randolph alone was worth ten places, Britt managed about 16 goals from the bench and the odd rare start, so their absence will make a big difference. Also we won"t be defending a 0-1 deficit to keep goal our difference down either and all the other crap he used to pull. I know I'd rather see progression, team spirit and a desire to attack and finish mid table with hope than another season of that dross, finishing 7th with no hope. Obviously it depends on the squad. But I was responding to the suggestion that anything more than 60 points with the current squad would be "very good". Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Hobo said: Obviously it depends on the squad. But I was responding to the suggestion that anything more than 60 points with the current squad would be "very good". I suppose the argument might be that we're also trying to completely change our style of play and I'm not sure if you can do that in the space of a few weeks and pre-season games. It's likely to be a pretty fundamental shift so you'd expect some teething problems along the way and that's before you consider the possible changes to the squad as you say. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,493 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Chelsea are sending 8 players out on loan including Lewis Baker, Izzy Brown, Lucaz Piazon, Trever Chalobah. Brown had a good loan at Hudds season they went up but suffered badly from injuries since. Piazon seems to be on loan a lot but did well for Fulham year they came up. Would you take any? Although i feel from this league, Derby will get first pick from Chelsea loans. Link to post Share on other sites
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