Rioch's Braves 711 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Woodgate on Tees has no complaints about the penalty. Link to post Share on other sites
pokeyjoe 110 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, thatoldchestnut said: Why not!!! Hasnt Woodgate had enough training sessions to implement his ideas ? How long does he need ? a month ? a year? 2 years? Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Fair play to you Wilson ya daft bugger ? Literally just asked for an example to back up a statement, I don't think that's such a daft thing to do, I wouldn't expect anything different from yourself. I also still think there are plenty of factors beyond money that means we wouldn't go in for those players, we won't know about them. I mean barely anyone on here knew about those players before so that comes down to a good scouting team, something we're quite aware we don't have. So there's already my expectation lowered. It's also not in the market we've looked in in the past, these aren't proven Championship players who you can expect performances out of, they are hungry young players in divisions with less overall quality in. It's a bit hit and miss though we can hardly attest to our method being anything even close to being better than that. One thing you can say though is that the 3 players we have signed do fit that model. They're cheaper than what we used to pay, they're young and supposedly hungry to prove themselves at a higher standard of football than what they were at before. If we can increase their value at all, we'll at least have made some positive impact in our transfer dealings. Even just having one of them valued at anything that could be deemed a substantial profit could be huge. Spending £3.5-4m on those 3 and selling one for £8m and you've covered any loss you might have on the other 3. But that still comes with a low expectation, giving these young players a platform to come in and show the division what they're worth has to. By all means, let them set high expectations for themselves but I don't see any use in say expecting Browne to bag tons of goals or assists. Not all of the best players listed came in and hit the ground running. Link to post Share on other sites
pokeyjoe 110 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I am not having this "it takes time to..." A professional footballer shouldnt need full re education to pass a football forward and not sideways I appreciate there not the brightest of light bulbs in the grand scale of professions but come on .... Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, pokeyjoe said: I am not having this "it takes time to..." A professional footballer shouldnt need full re education to pass a football forward and not sideways I appreciate there not the brightest of light bulbs in the grand scale of professions but come on .... If you'd been doing something out of habit for the past 5 years, do you think you'd find it easy to just stop doing it that way and do it another? Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Sandwich 209 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Pulis out! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Essuuaitch 330 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 the deflating thing for me is that in the Luton game . even though there was flaws in the system , you could acceptably put those down to infancy in its application and all in all i was pleasantly suprised with the intent we showed in our offensive intentions. today i got the feeling it was completely back to what weve had to suffer for many many away games in recent times, there was no optimism that we were capable or even prepared to open up and get at them. Blackburn to be fair arent amongst the elite in this division and it just felt like we had no ambition and thats the soul destroying thing . Link to post Share on other sites
mendieta420 988 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: If you'd been doing something out of habit for the past 5 years, do you think you'd find it easy to just stop doing it that way and do it another? It's not even that.. there's rarely a pass on. The forwards are on the last man and we hoof it forward. It's pure Pulis-ball without the structure. Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Sandwich 209 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: If you'd been doing something out of habit for the past 5 years, do you think you'd find it easy to just stop doing it that way and do it another? There's a video, Dominic Matteo on playing under Pulis - basically saying the players at West Brom forgot how to play their natural way, he blamed Pulus for them going down. Link to post Share on other sites
pokeyjoe 110 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, wilsoncgp said: If you'd been doing something out of habit for the past 5 years, do you think you'd find it easy to just stop doing it that way and do it another? Which takes up back to a full pre-season implementing his "high press" ideas We do not have the quality of player to put this "high press" in any sort of effect imo I think a lot of managers looked at Leeds last season and are going to try the same this season Blame who you will, Bausor/Woodgate/Gibbo the end result is becoming the same Link to post Share on other sites
jamesp 125 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Feel that Woodgate is very much out of his depth, worry for us this season. Need to win these two home games Link to post Share on other sites
Rioch's Braves 711 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, mendieta420 said: It's not even that.. there's rarely a pass on. The forwards are on the last man and we hoof it forward. It's pure Pulis-ball without the structure. Woodgate needs to tell certain players that if they can't adapt to the new style of football he wants to implement, and continually play hoof ball, then they won't be considered for the starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites
pokeyjoe 110 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rioch's Braves said: Woodgate needs to tell certain players that if they can't adapt to the new style of football he wants to implement, and continually play hoof ball, then they won't be considered for the starting 11. With a paper thin squad, that might not be a good idea ? Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 A lot of it today was just technique as well though, there was about 4-5 good runs that were ruined by absolutely dreadful passes. I honestly believe we're unlucky not to have a minimum of 5 points and maybe even 7, but we don't, so we just have to try and keep improving, go again Tuesday. Still 43 games left, I refuse to let the sky fall this early. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rioch's Braves said: Woodgate needs to tell certain players that if they can't adapt to the new style of football he wants to implement, and continually play hoof ball, then they won't be considered for the starting 11. Is there a five aside league we could maybe join? Link to post Share on other sites
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