DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I'm a big advocate of Maddison and do think the potential reward of signing him outweighs the risks. If we wanted to go down the route of a "Moneyball" type of system, he would be a perfect candidate. Undervalued due to his training/attitude problems (The undervalued part being the main premise of Moneyball). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
OldManGravz 1,350 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Soooooo, sell Randy and Ayala, get Gibbo in until January to cover the loss of Ayala, add Clarke & Maddison to our attacking play with the funds raised from those sales? Maybe Cosgrove too (although I can imagine that'd only be if Britt gets sold)? That's gotta lower the wage budget overall, hopefully raise a few million pounds for the kitty... May even be able to afford a couple of young loans from Prem teams in! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,937 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Does anyone have a reliable source for Madison's attitude problem? It seems to come up all the time but I'd never heard of him being in any trouble and he plays pretty much every game for his club. Youd expect if he was erratic or didnt put the work in hed be in and out? Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie-H 1,322 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: Does anyone have a reliable source for Madison's attitude problem? It seems to come up all the time but I'd never heard of him being in any trouble and he plays pretty much every game for his club. Youd expect if he was erratic or didnt put the work in hed be in and out? https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/peterborough-owner-doubts-sunderland-meet-16381550 His Chairman said Sunderland ended interest in summer 2018 because they were concerned he had a 'attitude problem'. Apparently it's a 'in the game' rumour started by a former manager of his about a bad attitude that's what Macanthony said. Edited December 13, 2019 by Jamie-H Link to post Share on other sites
BoroMart 139 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 It might same picky but, the guy recently got face tattoos, what kinda man goes and gets tattoos on his face? A mentalists, that's what type Link to post Share on other sites
Hendrie_7 1,073 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BoroMart said: It might same picky but, the guy recently got face tattoos, what kinda man goes and gets tattoos on his face? A mentalists, that's what type He'll do for me then, we haven't had a proper mentalist since Pogatetz Barry Robson. Long overdue. Edited December 13, 2019 by Hendrie_7 Forgot Super Baz. Shame on me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,482 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 He seems a bit of a t!t on social media, if thats anything to go by Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jamie-H said: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/peterborough-owner-doubts-sunderland-meet-16381550 His Chairman said Sunderland ended interest in summer 2018 because they were concerned he had a 'attitude problem'. Apparently it's a 'in the game' rumour started by a former manager of his about a bad attitude that's what Macanthony said. If he has got a bad attitude then it'll be pretty well known within the game. I haven't watched him play so I can't really comment but maybe he just doesn't look good enough to step up a level. I remember Premier league fans complaining that no one took a chance on Jordan Rhodes when he was banging the goals in. However I think if you watched him play a few full games rather than just his highlights you could see he was never good enough for that level. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, BoroMart said: It might same picky but, the guy recently got face tattoos, what kinda man goes and gets tattoos on his face? A mentalists, that's what type 😀 That sounds like one of Smogzilla's Opta reports 🤭 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,482 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, Changing Times said: 😀 That sounds like one of Smogzilla's Opta reports 🤭 Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,055 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 https://www.instagram.com/p/BvzSDoRhDY9/?igshid=svwf56z5iqt5 Link to post Share on other sites
Smoggydownsouth 1,621 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just some info I woke up to this morning... Maddison 85% happening.. just dependant on payment structure... after Clarke but he doesn't want to play for us due to Leeds connection and probably end up at Fulham. Got nothing on Gibbo but just cant see that happening... told Randolph is going to the highest bidder.. contract talks not taking place until March dependant on league position and then knowing playing budget for 20/21 season. Just what I have been told. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,493 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, Smoggydownsouth said: Just some info I woke up to this morning... Maddison 85% happening.. just dependant on payment structure... after Clarke but he doesn't want to play for us due to Leeds connection and probably end up at Fulham. Got nothing on Gibbo but just cant see that happening... told Randolph is going to the highest bidder.. contract talks not taking place until March dependant on league position and then knowing playing budget for 20/21 season. Just what I have been told. Thank you for the info @Smoggydownsouth. You hear anything about likely price we are looking for Randolph? Also any info regarding which out of contract players JW wants to keep n let go? Link to post Share on other sites
Smoggydownsouth 1,621 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, TLF10 said: Thank you for the info @Smoggydownsouth. You hear anything about likely price we are looking for Randolph? Also any info regarding which out of contract players JW wants to keep n let go? Been told we want 10 for Randolph... dont see us offering terms for Ayala Howson Gestede... just because I dont think we can afford them. Clayton free to go as well I believe Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,968 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) If we want 10m for Randolph then he won't go in January. Maybe in the summer if he helps to keep us up. Either way we can't afford to lose him on a free. I will personally drive Gestede to any club he wants to go to. Link to post Share on other sites
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