wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Changing Times said: Because maybe it was less about his 'style' and more about the fact that we were a better team and hence there were actual positives to speak about? There aren't any at the moment. It's also not his job to find positives in every situation anyway. What the sodding hell does that have to do with the way he views things? It's not his job to be negative either. 😄 He's commenting on football the way he sees it. Do you genuinely think he's making up positivity because he works for the club? Or do you just want him to tell it closer to the way you see it to give him any credit? Link to post Share on other sites
sanddancer 1,964 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Stats don’t lie and we have 1 point from a possible 9 playing the bottom clubs. In any business reports it would be viewed a disaster and heads would roll. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,219 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, wilsoncgp said: What the sodding hell does that have to do with the way he views things? It's not his job to be negative either. 😄 He's commenting on football the way he sees it. Do you genuinely think he's making up positivity because he works for the club? Or do you just want him to tell it closer to the way you see it to give him any credit? Because you seemed to be suggesting that our worsening performances wouldn't lead to a more negative outlook from him, which doesn't make any sense unless he's simply trying to find positives out of every situation. His job isn't to be negative or positive, it's to reflect on what is seen on the pitch. If it's bad then he needs to say it's bad otherwise he isn't doing his job properly. It's bad at the moment and has been for most of the season so talking things up would be him not doing his job properly. Then the question would be is that because he's just bad at the job or is it because he's employed by the club and doesn't want to be critical if he can help it. I rarely if ever listen to the radio so whatever he says makes no difference to me in that sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,179 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Shotton saying it as it is. Good lad. Link to post Share on other sites
Ayresome7 187 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 If Woodgate goes and a new manager comes in it will be our 6th manager since Karanka was sacked. How can you expect any business to be successful with such turnover in the space of just under 4 years? Link to post Share on other sites
BegSteeleOrBoro 55 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I’m usually quite late to the “sack the manager party” (except for Monk) - but Woody is living on borrowed time. It would be ok if you could see any consistent strategy but he seems in full panic mode - a bit like monk was near the end. Not sure that Gibson’s brain trust will appoint the right man though (again) - would take Karanka back in a heartbeat - and it still doesn’t solve our problems with lack of funds / talent in attack 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,219 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die said: Shotton saying it as it is. Good lad. What did he say? Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die said: Shotton saying it as it is. Good lad. That hes awful and shouldnt be in the team? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sanddancer said: Stats don’t lie and we have 1 point from a possible 9 playing the bottom clubs. In any business reports it would be viewed a disaster and heads would roll. Southgate and Monk weren't given as much leeway as Woody and their results weren't nearly as bad...neither was our playing. I really don't get why Gibson has stuck with him so long. I know finding a better successor won't be easy, but if Steve wasn't doing such a great ostrich impression, he'd have recognised Woodgate was totally unsuited to the job before Christmas and started scouting potential replacements. In that case, he might have one or two candidates ready to interview by now. Link to post Share on other sites
Fab4TT 26 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 We dont know what the relationship between Woody and Gibson is like. If Gibson's stall is simply, "Those lads are on a *** fortune, get them on that pitch and get them winning", it's a tough one. Like an earlier post I agree that a good swaith of our squad are currently on the decent as far as their physical & footballing abilities go. Link to post Share on other sites
RealSlimSladeyy 766 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 League one away days should be decent utb Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Because you seemed to be suggesting that our worsening performances wouldn't lead to a more negative outlook from him, which doesn't make any sense unless he's simply trying to find positives out of every situation. His job isn't to be negative or positive, it's to reflect on what is seen on the pitch. If it's bad then he needs to say it's bad otherwise he isn't doing his job properly. It's bad at the moment and has been for most of the season so talking things up would be him not doing his job properly. Then the question would be is that because he's just bad at the job or is it because he's employed by the club and doesn't want to be critical if he can help it. I rarely if ever listen to the radio so whatever he says makes no difference to me in that sense. His job is to give his opinion from a professional's perspective, to summarise the game. It's not like he's sat there saying "What a great performance" afterwards either, which perhaps you would know if you were listening to it. I don't quite know why you're being so tin-foil hat about it without the actual experience of listening to him very often other than to simply question something for the sake of it right now. I'm gonna leave it at that as this would appear to be an utterly pointless discussion all things considered. Link to post Share on other sites
White Band 831 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Changing Times said: What did he say? He's been very frank. Said they weren't good enough and that it hurt them. He feels a lot of responsibility for helping the younger players but also wants to give players like Wing and Morrison attacking freedom. Didn't say anything about Woody. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,179 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Changing Times said: What did he say? That some players think we're too good to be where we are right now and that Barnsley showed they are up for the fight to stay up. Says its not good enough but is relishing the Leeds game to hopefully get things back on track. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: That hes awful and shouldnt be in the team? Speaking for pretty much every outfield player. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites
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