Will 2,958 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 hours ago, OzzyPorter said: Absolutely. I watched the Leicester game the other night against Villa and both N'didi and then I think it was Mendy who came on. very much the archetypal holding player. Its all about pace and power and strength and energy in that role now. Djiksteel has those attributes. He'd certainly be better in that role than as a right back! Worrying indictment of our managers ability to identify players that suit his formation and positions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Duvel said: I wonder whether certain people at the football club are encouraged to sign up to fans forums and paint a rosy picture of what's going on. Why do you think I post on here? 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, TheJew said: If we stay up we have : Roberts, Gibson and Moukoudi in. Howson staying. Fry expected to go. Ayala expected to go. Shotton going. Gestede going. Clayton expected to go. Britt? Fletcher? Saville? McNair? They expected to stick around or are those still up in the air a bit? Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Why do you think I post on here? 👍 You are too sensible to have a job at MFC (and that isn't a compliment) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Duvel said: You are too sensible to have a job at MFC (and that isn't a compliment) Not a compliment to them or to me? 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites
TheJew 2,886 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Fletcher to stay. McNair to stay. Saville I dont know. Britt expected to leave but Woodgate wants to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Not a compliment to them or to me? 🤔 To you! Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Duvel said: To you! 🖕😡🖕 Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, Duvel said: There you have it. We are in deep trouble financially and we will have to make massive cutbacks this summer too in order to comply with FFP. Big sales before thinking about purchases. 30 million operating loss despite parachute payments. That puts us at 65 million operating loss before transfers. Horrendous reading. I really can’t see us having any money at all to spend despite making a decent transfer profit of around 10 million this season and slashing the wage bill. Even if we’d slash the wage bill by 15 million we still have an operating loss of around 40 million. Mind blowing and extremely concerning. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,399 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) We'll be releasing a lot of high earners in the summer, that'll be millions off the wage bill. Selling Assombalonga will be £5m+. Fry may be sold, we'll get a promotion bonus from Bamford and possibly Forshaw. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, Borodane said: There you have it. We are in deep trouble financially and we will have to make massive cutbacks this summer too in order to comply with FFP. Big sales before thinking about purchases. 30 million operating loss despite parachute payments. That puts us at 65 million operating loss before transfers. Horrendous reading. I really can’t see us having any money at all to spend despite making a decent transfer profit of around 10 million this season and slashing the wage bill. Even if we’d slash the wage bill by 15 million we still have an operating loss of around 40 million. Mind blowing and extremely concerning. I think it's not quite as simple as that. The operating loss comes almost totally from player amortisation and player wages and those figures should be a lot lower in this next set of accounts - if I understand it correctly that is. It's essentially a result of our spending in the transfer market and how that is shown in the accounts, which we already knew about as that's all of the players we've bought over the last few seasons who are still at the club. I think what's going to happen in the next set of accounts is that we will lose the broadcasting revenue but we will also have reduced our wage bill significantly to somewhere near £20m. That's by far the bigger expenditure we have. We'll end up making a loss on our revenue to wages of about £8m to £10m, which certainly isn't great like. The player amortisation figure should be lower because so many players are out of contract that we signed over the last few seasons, some of them have already left and we haven't added much to it last summer or the summer before. We'll obviously sell a couple in the summer either way and they should offset that amount in the same way that selling Gibson, Bamford and Traore did in the summer they were sold. It's a convoluted way of selling players to pay for your player purchases - you're just doing it in different periods and it's showing up in the accounts in a different way than it does in reality. I don't think we'll have any issues making FFP over the three years we can see and then over this current year and the previous two years. Link to post Share on other sites
Weasel 965 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I think we'll see these departures in the summer: Contract: Gestede Friend Johnson Shotton Fees: Assombalonga McNair (hope not, but I think he'll be in demand from other clubs) Clayton Potentially Dael Fry Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I reckon the way it's going that all of our out of contract players will leave at the end of the season, even if some sign back on with us after. Kind of like what Woody did with us in our promotion season. Link to post Share on other sites
OzzyPorter 44 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Will said: Worrying indictment of our managers ability to identify players that suit his formation and positions. I prefer to look at it as trying to buy a Gucci suit in TK Max. Impossible. He will have a bit more room to manoeuvre this summer. Hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites
GrimsbyBoro 1,957 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Problem is he went in for a Suit and instead bought a toaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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